mNUTES 

Of The Meeting 

Of 

THE ACADEMIC AFFAIRS COMMITTEE 

Tuesday, April 8, 1980 
3:00-4:30 p.m. 
Room 215 Engineering Science 
Present: Dr. 
Dr. 
Dr. 
Dr. 
Baldino 
Hahn 
Hill 
Khawaja 
Dr ~ 
Dr. 
Dr. 
Dr. 
Kougl 
Munro 
Richley 
Scriven 
ACTIONS 
1. 	 The meeting was called to order. The chairman called for discussion 
of the minutes. Dr. Hahn referred to page three, paragraph nine, 
and made a correction in the recorded vote. lIe said thQt it was not 
he that voted in favor of the motion. It was then established 
that it was Dr. Hovey who had voted in favor of the motion. 
Dr. Hahn moved acceptance of the revised minutes. Dr. Kougl seconded 
the motion. The minutes were approved unanimously. 
2. 	 The chairman began discussion of the next item on the agenda, the 
proposed education courses. 
A member recalled that in approving the education proposal, our 
position was to suggest that somehow the School of Education or 
Secondary Education ought to consider equity of clinical experience 
and 	give consideration of that to other disciplines. He asked if 
there has been any understanding arrived at as to the process. 
Dr. Hill said that it is difficult at this point to make such a 
determination, because we do not know yet exactly "hat we are deal 
ing with. He said that Dr. Douglass has built in 65 hours already 
to account for accepting clinical and field experience which the 
students mQy have already taken. lie said th<1t beyond that, the 
sugp,estion that he made to the Department ,"ould be thQt of vnrlabLe 
credit in a course for the purpose of accommodating possible additional 
hours. 
The 	discussion continued. 
A member said that we should get back to the idea of variable credit 
and the asterisk. The member said that if we could approve the program 
because it is justified and put in the asterisk, the program could go 
through for everyone else '''hile they negotiate. She said that we 
don't want any part of that; let the people that should make tha~ 
decision do so. 
Another member of the comInitl. ee agreeu; he said that he thinks t\i;lt 
should be a negotiation between the parties, anu we should not get 
involved with that. 
Dr. 	l'lunro made a motion that the committee positively recommend the 
proposal. Dr. Khawaja wished to add to that motion, "".\"ith the 
provision that Secondary Education take existing clinical/field 
experiences into consideration as appropriate." Dr. ~unro agreed 
to the addition. Dr. Hahn seconded the motion. 
Dr. Hill asked for further discussion on the motion. Dr. Richley 
wished to abstain from voting because he was not present for the last 
meeting at which time the proposal was discussed thoroughly. 
Dr. Hunro said that there does not seem to be anything substantial 
against it, and also it seems to be a matter of whether we trust 
Secondary Education in what they are proposing. He said that the 
fact that only one objection remains seems to indicate that this is 
a sound proposal. 
The 	chairman took the vote. All were in favor, with one abstention 
by Dr. Richley. 
A member asked if this the~ goes to the Curriculum Committee. Dr. Hill 
said it should probably go to the Senate, but he will inform the 
Curriculum Committee. 
3. 	 At this time, the chairman brought attention to the fourth item on 
the agenda, the request by Dr. Rand for a memo concerning action 
taken by the committee on the Honors Program. He asked what the 
pleasure is in responding to Dean Rand. 
Dr. Hill asked if it would be the pleasure of tile commit tee that he 
contact Hr. Baer and/or Dr. Altinger to reinforce the committee's 
position and to communicate that to Dr. Ranu. It was consensus this 
be done. 
4. 	 The meeting turned to business concerning selection of honors students. 
In reviewing the rules concerning honors students, two members expressed 
concern about number two. They felt that it should be changed, 
because it does not seem fair to eliminate a student just because he/ 
she did not happen to be in attendance Winter Quarter. 
The chairman suggested going down the list o[ rules one by one and 
uiscussing each. lie nsked if there is any obJcct.lol1 to nlJmber one. 
There was no objection. 
In discussing number two, Dr. Scriven said that if the committee would 
like to change that statement, he would like to have a week to con 
sider implications. 
A member suggested that the committee give Dr. Scriven the oppor 
tunity to look at this, (a week or two) because it may be a substantial 
factor. 
The chairman said that it s e l :I1 S to him that th is need:; to he explored. 
He a s ked the committee members if it ...,ould be acceptable for Dr. ScrIve n 
to take a Heek to s ee wh e ther students who attenued quarte rs during the 
ye ilr other than Ihnter Quarter could be reasonably included in the 
honors program, using the criteria which we have. The committee agreed. 
5. 	 Dr. Hill advis ed the committee that next we ek they will be discussing 
a proposal from the School of Business Administration. 
6. 	 The motion for adj ournment came from Dr. Scriven and was seconded by 
Dr. Kougl. The motion was carried unanimously. 
The 	meeting was adjourned. 
* 	 (C oncerning item three above, the Academic Affairs Committee suggested 
that the Honors Committee revise their proposal and resubmit it 
to the Academic Affairs Committee. }lr. Eaer and Dr. Altinger agreed 
to do this.) 
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